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djwebb2004 -

I have attached an audio file. I know there are errors, but I thought it better to post an audio
without the text to see if people can understand! I think it probably my 1) 1st one is not high
enough 2) my 2nd tone is too vague 3) my tone 3 sandhi is wrong, and 4)my 4th tone does not go
down properly enough... Thank you for any help.



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Koneko -

Generally it's pretty good, just some intonation issues.

K.










Horatio -

Err, This is my first post so it seems kind of stink for it to be a criticism
First your spoken Chinese blows mine out of the water.
Thing I noticed was your 为什么 not really pronouncing the sh of shen. Maybe you're copying the
local dialect?










djwebb2004 -

Horatio, many Chinese do not pronounce sh as sh and it is easy to get lazy in this respect, as it
is easy to pronounce it the way the southerners do...










Koneko -

I would like to add that most Southerners do not pronunce words ending with "g" clearly either.

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igotyofire -

are you reading?










djwebb2004 -

yes, that is why the audio is not very good. I am reading. I will try to do one another day where
I am just talking naturally.










heifeng -

Sorry, but you said be merciless:

I played your file for the guys in my office (who for the most part are just exposed to my funky
Chinese, thus exposure to other foreigners is limited):

the good news is they could understand you for the most part.

The bad news is they agreed that pronounciation didn't seem really really clear and accurate.

Whatever my opinion counts for*, maybe some of the pauses in the sentence aren't that natural so
it loses a lil' bit of overall flow and pronounciation could be a bit "crisper" if that makes
sense...(*not much hehe)

Do you have a native speaker's recording of what you read so that you can imitate? I'm suffering
from the same reading and recording issues and will spend an hour or more on a short HSK type
passage so I feel your pain....

加油...










chenpv -

In my opinion, djwebb was doing a great job trying to pronounce every character the right way,
given he managed to keep the flow as natural/fast as he could. And I believe he is able to
enunciate those characters with a relatively relaxed reading speed.

Incidentally, I also noticed that westerners tend to have very heavy nasal sounds while speaking
Chinese, which makes them very distinguishable from native speaker no matter how accurately they
manage every pronunciation and intonation. Well, don't mean to force any Chinese learner to sound
exactly like a native speaker, it's just... how I feel, possibly, just me...










gato -

djwebb, I notice that you have some general tone problems ("中国", for example). If you can
submit a shorter clip (maybe just 30 seconds), people would be better able to offer more specific
comments.












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