Wednesday, December 24, 2008

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Forum: Adsotrans.com Forum 21st April 2008, 09:58 AM

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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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Re: Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

Excited to share a new feature that I have been testing. You can download your search results for
safe-keeping from the Primezero i18n Terminal (English-Chinese Dictionary) in various formats:...



Forum: Adsotrans.com Forum 5th April 2008, 10:16 AM

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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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Happy to announce that you can build custom Chinese flashcard decks for printing and delivery on
the Primezero i18n Terminal (http://www.primezero.com/terminal/). :D

Every search result can be...



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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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also, Chinese Seal Chop Google Gadget for iGoogle
(http://www.google.com/ig/directory?q=chinese+seal&hl=en&type=gadgets&start=21&url=www.primezero.com
/chinese/primezero_chinese_chop_gg.xml) now...



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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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Re: No you are not crazy, your pinyin is talking to you.

Users of iTunes+Quicktime can now hear pinyin sounds talking to you in the Chinese entries at the
Primezero i18n Terminal.

Sample Query: starbucks...



Forum: Adsotrans.com Forum 21st February 2008, 12:35 AM

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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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Re: Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

:oops: Thanks! :)

Adsotrans is pretty cool, eh? Have you tried trev's new annotated editor?

-- also --

My pleasure to introduce a Hanzi To Pinyin Converter online ... :) Simple copy and paste...



Forum: Adsotrans.com Forum 16th February 2008, 04:03 AM

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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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Re: Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

:D Happy to introduce The Primezero i18n Terminal (http://www.primezero.com/terminal/). Simple,
intuitive translation search, designed for professionals.



Forum: Adsotrans.com Forum 24th January 2008, 10:35 PM

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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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Re: Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

I am happy to share the Chinese Seal Chop Widget for WordPress
(http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/chinese-seal-chop-widget/). I created a simple sidebar widget
that can be updated from the admin...



Forum: Adsotrans.com Forum 16th January 2008, 04:42 PM

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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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Hey, LaoZhang, Thank you so much for the feedback! :D You're too kind.

I am currently designing for WAP 2.0 web browsers (Opera Mini is my favorite). The message "your
phone not supported" may...



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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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I am happy to introduce a rough draft of Primezero Mobile Chinese Tools. To get started, point
your mobile phone to http://m.primezero.com/. Below is a screenshot from the Google Android...



Forum: Adsotrans.com Forum 13th January 2008, 03:54 PM

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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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Re: Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

哪裡哪裡 :oops:



adso is quite wonderful, especially in the news-in-chinese application for annotation. new server
in a new year would be exciting.



Forum: Adsotrans.com Forum 1st January 2008, 03:37 PM

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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

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Chinese Text-Processing + Learning Tools

I am happy and honored to share a few projects I have been working on.

I am posting here because I believe these projects are a subset of the Adsotrans
computer-assisted, human-driven translation...



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Tuesday, December 23, 2008

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Why Do You Learn Chinese?(ple help me with the survey)

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Why I try to learn Chinese

1) My husband is Chinese but speaks flawless English. I originally learned some Mandarin to
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Monday, December 22, 2008

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1. Cuz I want to...as simple as that. I'm chinese...

1. Cuz I want to...as simple as that. I'm chinese and I can speak it fine grammar-wise but had
never gotten the chance to learn to write it. So yeah...I just wanna get involved with it more.

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Sunday, December 21, 2008

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Tips for beginners?

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about listening

Hello Sweden,

when I was studying in Helsinki University, my Finnish-for-foreigners teacher told us of a Swedish
linguistic who had (in 80's/90's) created the same kind of system as Tell Me More,...



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Saturday, December 20, 2008

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Forum: Speaking and Listening 22nd July 2005, 12:57 PM

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Pinyin used in Taiwan?

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Tainan probably made the switch too. I would...

Tainan probably made the switch too. I would guess Taipei is the city most resistant to Tongyong
Pinyin since the city attracts the most foreigners in Taiwan, and Hanyu Pinyin is the standard
taught...



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It is very unlikely that Taiwan will convert to...

It is very unlikely that Taiwan will convert to simplified characters under a KMT government
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Friday, December 19, 2008

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most embarrassing moment while learning Chinese

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HAHAHAH, these are some GREAT stories, guys! ...

HAHAHAH, these are some GREAT stories, guys! Keep 'em coming! My Chinese is still limited enough
that I don't know enough words to be able to make the mistakes you guys have made, but I'm sure as
I...



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Thursday, December 18, 2008

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Forum: Speaking and Listening 26th November 2003, 10:37 AM

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most embarrassing moment while learning Chinese

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Quest

This only tells me how difficult Chinese could be if you do not understand all the nuances of the
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Forum: Speaking and Listening 26th November 2003, 09:59 AM

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most embarrassing moment while learning Chinese

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thanks for the clarification

I looked this term on dictionary and you are correct:

It was defined as follows:

同性恋 tóngxìngliàn n. 1)homosexuality 2)homosexual

This again points out how important is to use the right tones in...



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[quote="wix"]What was your most embarrassing moment while learning Chinese? Here's mine...

tongzhi was a perfectly fine word to describe a friend or comrade. I was quite surprised though by
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Wednesday, December 17, 2008

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Chinese roots in other languages

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中国では、3世紀、魏、呉、蜀の三国時代、呉の国は江南にあって、建業(
今の南京)を首都として江南一帯を...

中国では、3世紀、魏、呉、蜀の三国時代、呉の国は江南にあって、建業(
今の南京)を首都として江南一帯を統治しており、この地方一帯を「呉」�
��地と呼んでいた。その後の南北朝時代に入っても、南朝は晋、宋、斉と��
�ずれも建康(建業を改名)を首都として漢文化を伝えていた。

 日本に最初に漢字を伝えたのは、百済であるが、百済は朝鮮半島の南西�
��の黄海に面しており、中国との交流は、もっぱら当時の文化の中心であ��
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Chinese roots in other languages

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There have been several migrations from the north...

There have been several migrations from the north to the south during Chinese history. Also
actually, 吴越 (region in Jiangsu 吴 and Zhejiang 越) has been believed to have brought rice
agriculture to...



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Tuesday, December 16, 2008

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Chinesepod.com-Does it really work?

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Re: Chinesepod.com-Does it really work?

Wow thanks for all your help ill be signing up for the trial for sure, as im on Christmas
Hollidays. It sounds great thanks alot.



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Chinesepod.com-Does it really work?

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Chinesepod.com-Does it really work?

I've reacently been hearing alot of great stuff about Chinesepod i'm now thinking of buying a
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Monday, December 15, 2008

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Steve Kaufmann - How good is he?

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Re: Steve Kaufmann - How good is he?

as a non-native chinese speaker,this guy's pronunciation is excellent ,almost
"以假乱真:mrgreen: "

"变为两种或者三种语言的人"
it should be 三3, and some tone mistakes in the fsuccedent speech



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Sunday, December 14, 2008

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New Antiwave Podcast 人民大会谈4 - “东南西北”宋以朗 (下)

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Re: New Antiwave Podcast 超级难说6 - 猪年为何不能说猪?

Chinese vegetarian food may look very healthy but it's actually very oily and full of MSG. They
normally fry (be it deep or shallow fry) the mock-meat before adding other ingredients. :(

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Re: New Antiwave Podcast 超级难说6 - 猪年为何不能说猪?

Buddhist monks are, perhaps, a little bit more fortunate.
They're vegan but they can have fake meat made from dough 面筋. :mrgreen:

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Re: New Antiwave Podcast 超级难说6 - 猪年为何不能说猪?

I see. Then, how about other top predator fish like tuna, marlin, barracuda, etc? :wink:
Eel and catfish do not have scales, are they edible?

K.



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Re: New Antiwave Podcast 超级难说6 - 猪年为何不能说猪?

This is not true because not all fish are herbivorous.
How come fish are not haraam? :wink:

K.



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Saturday, December 13, 2008

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How could I get better at tones?

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I think this is quite common on courses. I think...

I think this is quite common on courses. I think the problem is that learning tones is a long hard
frustrating road for many of us, and it requires a lot of one-to-one practice and individual...



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Thursday, December 11, 2008

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magores -

I just asked my co-workers.

One pronounced it: nuan he
Six pronounced it: nuan huo

The one that said "he" is from the far north of China (near Russia and Korea), while the rest are
from Hebei/Beijing.

/Just a little anecdotal evidence for whatever it's worth.



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Wednesday, December 10, 2008

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Outofin -

宕 down
宕机 in fact means "the server is down."

配 pay
你每月配多少房款?

泊 park
I heard in some dialect 泊车 does sound like "park".

Any other examples?



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泊 park
I heard in some dialect 泊车 does sound like "park".

Hehe, at least, I know 泊车 does sound like “park” in Cantonese.



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Any other examples?

Here is one. 澳刀 AU Dollar
In Australia, Chinese people call Au Dollar as “澳刀”.
你每月水电费是多少澳刀啊?

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muyongshi -

So are you looking for the real meaning of the word or just a word that sounds exactly like an
English equivalent? Because 泊车 means to park and 泊 originally meant to anchor. But 配
doesn't mean pay.... So I'm not sure where you are going with this. Unless you are thinking of 赔
which means to pay or compensate.... But can't be used in the example you gave as it means to pay
as means of compensation...










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Because 泊车 means to park and 泊 originally meant to anchor. But 配 doesn't mean pay....

泊,停泊。泊船,park the boat.
配 allocate money










muyongshi -



Quote:

配 allocate money

Yes allocate but allocating and "pay" are two very different words...










文言訓開班 -

There's a Hong Kong character for elevator pronounced lip1 that is a direct transliteration of the
British, "lift". I don't remember the 部, but the 体 is 立.....maybe it's 爿立? Anyway,
standard typing character sets don't generate the character.










frankcupid -

石头 stone










Quest -

Not exact, but close; in dialects:
俺 I
汝 you
其 he
耳 ear
眼 eye
火 fire
船 ship
毛 mold
牛 cow
连 link
叫 yell










pandagirl -

配 pay
你每月配多少房款?(sorry,can i ask you? are you sure it right?)

We call the same or nearly pronunciation & meaning "外来词 (come from foreign)"
i think you can search more and more in the website.the keyword is "外来词"
sofa——— 沙发
card ———卡片
bloger ———博客
Bonsai ———盆栽(花卉的一种)
chow mein 炒面
Cheong-sam———长衫。
Confucius———孔子。
dim sum——— 点心
Dingho———顶好,最佳。
Fengshui———风水。
Ginseng———人参。主要指北美一带出产的“花旗参”,又称“西洋参”。
Gung-ho———热情高涨,极感兴趣。
Kowtow———极其卑顺的态度。来自中文的“磕头”。
Kungfu———中国武术。中文原词为“功夫”。
Lao-tzu———老子。
lychee(litch)荔枝
Mah-jong———麻将。
Sampan———指单帆或需用桨划的小船。来自“舢板”。
Silk———丝绸。源于中文的“丝”。
Tai-chi(chuan)———太极或太极拳。
Tao———道。道教。
TaoTeChing———《道德经》。
Tofu———豆腐。
Tong———秘密组织,帮会。从汉语“堂”派生而来。
Typhoon---台风












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bogleg -

Hi character,

Sorry it took so long, but there's a new build in the sandbox area that now does auto-fill of
traditional characters for new entries. You can download it from here:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...ease_id=585912

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character -



Quote:

Sorry it took so long, but there's a new build in the sandbox area that now does auto-fill of
traditional characters for new entries.

When I try it, I can't get any auto-fill to happen. Perhaps some third person could try it.










bogleg -

Hmm, what build did you end up downloading? When it starts up, does it show 0.7.1 on the splash
screen?

Chris










character -

0.7.1

Here are the error logs. Not sure what's wrong; the dictionary seems to work for popups and such,
but not for adding new entries.


!SESSION 2008-03-22 09:52:50.757 -----------------------------------------------
eclipse.buildId=M20071023-1652
java.version=1.6.0_03
java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
BootLoader constants: OS=linux, ARCH=x86, WS=gtk, NL=en_US
Command-line arguments: -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86

!ENTRY org.eclipse.ui.navigator 4 2 2008-03-22 09:53:02.859
!MESSAGE Problems occurred when invoking code from plug-in: "org.eclipse.ui.navigator".
!STACK 0
org.eclipse.core.runtime.AssertionFailedException: null argument:
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Assert.isNotNull(Assert.java:84)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Assert.isNotNull(Assert.java:72)
at org.eclipse.jface.viewers.StructuredSelection.(StructuredSelection.java:66)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.navigator.CommonNavigatorManager$2.run(CommonNavigatorManager.java:101)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.SafeRunner.run(SafeRunner.java:37)
at
org.eclipse.ui.internal.navigator.CommonNavigatorManager$UpdateActionBarsJob.runInUIThread(CommonNav
igatorManager.java:94)
at org.eclipse.ui.progress.UIJob$1.run(UIJob.java:94)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.RunnableLock.run(RunnableLock.java:35)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Synchronizer.runAsyncMessages(Synchronizer.java:123)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runAsyncMessages(Display.java:3296)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch(Display.java:2974)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.runEventLoop(Workbench.java:2389)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.runUI(Workbench.java:2353)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.access$4(Workbench.java:2219)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench$4.run(Workbench.java:466)
at org.eclipse.core.databinding.observable.Realm.runWithDefault(Realm.java:289)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.createAndRunWorkbench(Workbench.java:461)
at org.eclipse.ui.PlatformUI.createAndRunWorkbench(PlatformUI.java:149)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.ide.application.IDEApplication.start(IDEApplication.java:106)
at org.eclipse.equinox.internal.app.EclipseAppHandle.run(EclipseAppHandle.java:169)
at
org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.runApplication(EclipseAppLauncher.java:
106)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.start(EclipseAppLauncher.java:76)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:363)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:176)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(Main.java:50
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:447)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:1173)

!ENTRY org.eclipse.ui.navigator 4 0 2008-03-22 09:53:02.938
!MESSAGE null argument:
!STACK 0
org.eclipse.core.runtime.AssertionFailedException: null argument:
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Assert.isNotNull(Assert.java:84)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Assert.isNotNull(Assert.java:72)
at org.eclipse.jface.viewers.StructuredSelection.(StructuredSelection.java:66)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.navigator.CommonNavigatorManager$2.run(CommonNavigatorManager.java:101)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.SafeRunner.run(SafeRunner.java:37)
at
org.eclipse.ui.internal.navigator.CommonNavigatorManager$UpdateActionBarsJob.runInUIThread(CommonNav
igatorManager.java:94)
at org.eclipse.ui.progress.UIJob$1.run(UIJob.java:94)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.RunnableLock.run(RunnableLock.java:35)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Synchronizer.runAsyncMessages(Synchronizer.java:123)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runAsyncMessages(Display.java:3296)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch(Display.java:2974)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.runEventLoop(Workbench.java:2389)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.runUI(Workbench.java:2353)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.access$4(Workbench.java:2219)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench$4.run(Workbench.java:466)
at org.eclipse.core.databinding.observable.Realm.runWithDefault(Realm.java:289)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.createAndRunWorkbench(Workbench.java:461)
at org.eclipse.ui.PlatformUI.createAndRunWorkbench(PlatformUI.java:149)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.ide.application.IDEApplication.start(IDEApplication.java:106)
at org.eclipse.equinox.internal.app.EclipseAppHandle.run(EclipseAppHandle.java:169)
at
org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.runApplication(EclipseAppLauncher.java:
106)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.start(EclipseAppLauncher.java:76)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:363)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:176)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(Main.java:50
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:447)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:1173)
!SESSION 2008-03-22 09:29:16.339 -----------------------------------------------
eclipse.buildId=unknown
java.version=1.5.0_04
java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
BootLoader constants: OS=linux, ARCH=x86, WS=gtk, NL=en_US
Command-line arguments: -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86

!ENTRY org.eclipse.jface 4 0 2008-03-22 09:44:07.442
!MESSAGE The command ("net.sourceforge.zdt.flashcard.commands.selectAll") is undefined
!STACK 0
java.lang.Exception
at
org.eclipse.jface.action.ExternalActionManager$CommandCallback.isActive(ExternalActionManager.java:3
69)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.ActionContributionItem.isCommandActive(ActionContributionItem.java:645)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.ActionContributionItem.isVisible(ActionContributionItem.java:701)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.MenuManager.update(MenuManager.java:660)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.MenuManager.handleAboutToShow(MenuManager.java:444)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.MenuManager.access$1(MenuManager.java:439)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.MenuManager$2.menuShown(MenuManager.java:465)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.TypedListener.handleEvent(TypedListener.java:234)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.EventTable.sendEvent(EventTable.java:84)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendEvent(Widget.java:1145)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendEvent(Widget.java:1169)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendEvent(Widget.java:1150)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Menu._setVisible(Menu.java:175)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runPopups(Display.java:3361)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch(Display.java:2979)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.runEventLoop(Workbench.java:2392)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.runUI(Workbench.java:2356)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.access$4(Workbench.java:2222)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench$4.run(Workbench.java:474)
at org.eclipse.core.databinding.observable.Realm.runWithDefault(Realm.java:28
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.createAndRunWorkbench(Workbench.java:469)
at org.eclipse.ui.PlatformUI.createAndRunWorkbench(PlatformUI.java:149)
at net.sourceforge.zdt.core.ZDTApplication.start(ZDTApplication.java:46)
at org.eclipse.equinox.internal.app.EclipseAppHandle.run(EclipseAppHandle.java:193)
at
org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.runApplication(EclipseAppLauncher.java:
106)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.start(EclipseAppLauncher.java:76)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:362)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:175)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(Main.java:564)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:504)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:1251)

!ENTRY org.eclipse.ui 4 0 2008-03-22 09:48:25.774
!MESSAGE Unhandled event loop exception
!STACK 0
org.eclipse.swt.SWTException: Failed to execute runnable (java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to
connect to database. Please check your database preferences (Window->Preferences->Database)
and make sure that 'Current database' is pointing to a valid database. Also check that another
version of the zdt isn't already running.)
at org.eclipse.swt.SWT.error(SWT.java:3716)
at org.eclipse.swt.SWT.error(SWT.java:3634)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Synchronizer.runAsyncMessages(Synchronizer.java:133)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runAsyncMessages(Display.java:3312)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch(Display.java:2985)
at org.eclipse.jface.window.Window.runEventLoop(Window.java:825)
at org.eclipse.jface.window.Window.open(Window.java:801)
at net.sourceforge.zdt.flashcard.actions.AddEntryAction.run(AddEntryAction.java:44)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.Action.runWithEvent(Action.java:49
at org.eclipse.jface.commands.ActionHandler.execute(ActionHandler.java:119)
at org.eclipse.core.commands.Command.executeWithChecks(Command.java:475)
at org.eclipse.core.commands.ParameterizedCommand.executeWithChecks(ParameterizedCommand.java:470)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.handlers.HandlerService.executeCommand(HandlerService.java:165)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard.executeCommand(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:470)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard.press(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:821)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard.processKeyEvent(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:879)
at
org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard.filterKeySequenceBindings(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:56
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard.access$3(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:510)
at
org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard$KeyDownFilter.handleEvent(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:126)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.EventTable.sendEvent(EventTable.java:84)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.filterEvent(Display.java:1393)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendEvent(Widget.java:1144)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendEvent(Widget.java:1169)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendEvent(Widget.java:1154)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendKeyEvent(Widget.java:1181)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.gtk_key_press_event(Widget.java:695)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Control.gtk_key_press_event(Control.java:2722)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Composite.gtk_key_press_event(Composite.java:700)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Table.gtk_key_press_event(Table.java:1895)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.windowProc(Widget.java:1530)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Control.windowProc(Control.java:4470)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.windowProc(Display.java:4026)
at org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS._gtk_main_do_event(Native Method)
at org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS.gtk_main_do_event(OS.java:5710)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.eventProc(Display.java:1163)
at org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS._g_main_context_iteration(Native Method)
at org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS.g_main_context_iteration(OS.java:1504)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch(Display.java:2980)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.runEventLoop(Workbench.java:2392)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.runUI(Workbench.java:2356)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.access$4(Workbench.java:2222)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench$4.run(Workbench.java:474)
at org.eclipse.core.databinding.observable.Realm.runWithDefault(Realm.java:28
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.createAndRunWorkbench(Workbench.java:469)
at org.eclipse.ui.PlatformUI.createAndRunWorkbench(PlatformUI.java:149)
at net.sourceforge.zdt.core.ZDTApplication.start(ZDTApplication.java:46)
at org.eclipse.equinox.internal.app.EclipseAppHandle.run(EclipseAppHandle.java:193)
at
org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.runApplication(EclipseAppLauncher.java:
106)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.start(EclipseAppLauncher.java:76)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:362)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:175)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(Main.java:564)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:504)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:1251)
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to connect to database. Please check your database
preferences (Window->Preferences->Database)
and make sure that 'Current database' is pointing to a valid database. Also check that another
version of the zdt isn't already running.
at net.sourceforge.zdt.core.dao.DictionaryDao.getAllEntryValuesByCharacter(DictionaryDao.java:152)
at net.sourceforge.zdt.core.util.Dictionary.getAllEntryValuesByCharacter(Dictionary.java:17
at net.sourceforge.zdt.flashcard.wizards.AddEntryWizardPage$5$1.run(AddEntryWizardPage.java:371)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.RunnableLock.run(RunnableLock.java:35)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Synchronizer.runAsyncMessages(Synchronizer.java:130)
... 55 more
!SESSION 2008-03-22 09:50:38.092 -----------------------------------------------
eclipse.buildId=unknown
java.version=1.5.0_04
java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
BootLoader constants: OS=linux, ARCH=x86, WS=gtk, NL=en_US
Command-line arguments: -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86

!ENTRY org.eclipse.ui 4 0 2008-03-22 09:56:27.089
!MESSAGE Unhandled event loop exception
!STACK 0
org.eclipse.swt.SWTException: Failed to execute runnable (java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to
connect to database. Please check your database preferences (Window->Preferences->Database)
and make sure that 'Current database' is pointing to a valid database. Also check that another
version of the zdt isn't already running.)
at org.eclipse.swt.SWT.error(SWT.java:3716)
at org.eclipse.swt.SWT.error(SWT.java:3634)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Synchronizer.runAsyncMessages(Synchronizer.java:133)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runAsyncMessages(Display.java:3312)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch(Display.java:2985)
at org.eclipse.jface.window.Window.runEventLoop(Window.java:825)
at org.eclipse.jface.window.Window.open(Window.java:801)
at net.sourceforge.zdt.flashcard.actions.AddEntryAction.run(AddEntryAction.java:44)
at org.eclipse.jface.action.Action.runWithEvent(Action.java:49
at org.eclipse.jface.commands.ActionHandler.execute(ActionHandler.java:119)
at org.eclipse.core.commands.Command.executeWithChecks(Command.java:475)
at org.eclipse.core.commands.ParameterizedCommand.executeWithChecks(ParameterizedCommand.java:470)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.handlers.HandlerService.executeCommand(HandlerService.java:165)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard.executeCommand(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:470)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard.press(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:821)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard.processKeyEvent(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:879)
at
org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard.filterKeySequenceBindings(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:56
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard.access$3(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:510)
at
org.eclipse.ui.internal.keys.WorkbenchKeyboard$KeyDownFilter.handleEvent(WorkbenchKeyboard.java:126)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.EventTable.sendEvent(EventTable.java:84)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.filterEvent(Display.java:1393)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendEvent(Widget.java:1144)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendEvent(Widget.java:1169)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendEvent(Widget.java:1154)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.sendKeyEvent(Widget.java:1181)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.gtk_key_press_event(Widget.java:695)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Control.gtk_key_press_event(Control.java:2722)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Composite.gtk_key_press_event(Composite.java:700)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Table.gtk_key_press_event(Table.java:1895)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Widget.windowProc(Widget.java:1530)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Control.windowProc(Control.java:4470)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.windowProc(Display.java:4026)
at org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS._gtk_main_do_event(Native Method)
at org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS.gtk_main_do_event(OS.java:5710)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.eventProc(Display.java:1163)
at org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS._g_main_context_iteration(Native Method)
at org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS.g_main_context_iteration(OS.java:1504)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch(Display.java:2980)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.runEventLoop(Workbench.java:2392)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.runUI(Workbench.java:2356)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.access$4(Workbench.java:2222)
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench$4.run(Workbench.java:474)
at org.eclipse.core.databinding.observable.Realm.runWithDefault(Realm.java:28
at org.eclipse.ui.internal.Workbench.createAndRunWorkbench(Workbench.java:469)
at org.eclipse.ui.PlatformUI.createAndRunWorkbench(PlatformUI.java:149)
at net.sourceforge.zdt.core.ZDTApplication.start(ZDTApplication.java:46)
at org.eclipse.equinox.internal.app.EclipseAppHandle.run(EclipseAppHandle.java:193)
at
org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.runApplication(EclipseAppLauncher.java:
106)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.start(EclipseAppLauncher.java:76)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:362)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:175)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(Main.java:564)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:504)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:1251)
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to connect to database. Please check your database
preferences (Window->Preferences->Database)
and make sure that 'Current database' is pointing to a valid database. Also check that another
version of the zdt isn't already running.
at net.sourceforge.zdt.core.dao.DictionaryDao.getAllEntryValuesByCharacter(DictionaryDao.java:152)
at net.sourceforge.zdt.core.util.Dictionary.getAllEntryValuesByCharacter(Dictionary.java:17
at net.sourceforge.zdt.flashcard.wizards.AddEntryWizardPage$4$1.run(AddEntryWizardPage.java:290)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.RunnableLock.run(RunnableLock.java:35)
at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Synchronizer.runAsyncMessages(Synchronizer.java:130)
... 55 more










leib1 -

Hi,

ZDT is a great software, still I have some minor problems probably due to my os setup.
- Sometimes I see squares instead of chinese signs
- sometimes the chinese sign are rotated
Can someone pls tell me what is wrong.

Thanks a lot

Leib1










bogleg -

Hi leib1,

You're probably not using a font that can render chinese characters if its appearing as squares.
Also, if you choose a font that begins with @, it will appear rotated. Try some other fonts and
see if it works better.

Chris










leib1 -

Thanks,
It did help.

Leib1










Radial -

I got a couple charcters which I inputed but the program cannot process them.


心猿意马

Most of the times i can just paste a phrase as a new engry and it will resolve the
charactere/sound (and often the definition correctly). However, about once or twice a session i
run into a charracter or phrase which does not resolve correctly.












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Monday, December 8, 2008

Study Chinese - Chinese Essay about one child policy -








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opper567 -

If you have any free time, can anyone quickly look through this short essay and tell me if I made
any obvious or strange errors.

thanks,
opper

独生子女政策
在大跃进的时候,毛泽东使中国一个严重的问题。中国人口增长了很多是由�
��毛泽东鼓励人口增长。他说“人多力量大”。中国渐渐有太多人。在大跃��
�的结局,周恩来说“一个孩子理想,两个孩子够,三个孩子太多”,他鼓励
计划生育。在一九七八年,邓小平成了执政的主席。邓主席实行独生子女政�
��,是为了限制人口增长。
独生子女政策进行得不太顺利。这个政策伤害社会。政府允许一个家只有一�
��孩子,所以老一辈靠自己的孩子。年轻一辈决定不给老一辈提供或者不能��
�供自己的父母的话,老一辈就会吃不了苦。父母只能有一个孩子,因此,父
母把全部的主意集中在他们自己的独生孩子。父母的目的是自己的孩子进名�
��,所以为了请家教或者上补习班,父母花很多钱。独生字女受到母的娇惯��
�而成为家中的霸道的小皇帝。中国孩子受到太多的关注所以长成的时候不会
有够独立性。
虽然中国采取很多西方的观念,中国人还有重男轻女的传统想法。很多妇女�
��但认识到她们怀孕,就去医生发现孩子的性别。怀了女孩的话,赶快就堕��
�。根据最新的人口的统计男女比例是一百一十七比一百。二零二零年有人说
三千万个男人娶不了一个妻。在农村为了耕田,父母需要男孩,所以在农村�
��在城市严重得多。
在中国有人不必须按照独生子女政策。一个家如果想有两三个孩子,就需要�
��社会扶养费。华裔外国人回中国,就可以有一多个孩子。少数民族在中国��
�全不需要按照独生子女政策。现在少数民族比华裔人口增长得快。



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studentyoung -



Quote:

If you have any free time, can anyone quickly look through this short essay and tell me if I made
any obvious or strange errors.

I wonder if you could offer the original text, so that we can correct your translation more
effectively?

Cheers!










gato -

I think he wrote it himself as a Chinese class assignment.










studentyoung -

Opper,
我已经把你的原文稍稍润色了一下,你自己先对照一下,然后有不懂的地方�
��再问吧。对了,在你的文章里,我似乎也没看见你对独生子女政策的独到��
�法。



Quote:

在大跃进的时候,毛泽东使中国一个严重的问题。中国人口增长了很多是由�
��毛泽东鼓励人口增长。他说“人多力量大”。中国渐渐有太多人。在大跃��
�的结局,周恩来说“一个孩子理想,两个孩子够,三个孩子太多”,他鼓励
计划生育。在一九七八年,邓小平成了执政的主席。邓主席实行独生子女政�
��,是为了限制人口增长。

在大跃进的时候,毛泽东给中国带来了一个严重的问题。中国人口激增是由�
��毛泽东鼓励人口增长。他说:“人多力量大”。中国的人口逐渐过度膨胀��
�在大跃进结束时,周恩来说“一个太少,两个正好,三个就多了”,以此鼓
励计划生育。在一九七八年,邓小平上台。小平同志推行独生子女政策,就�
��为了限制人口增长。



Quote:

邓主席

注:邓小平同志的官衔不是“国家主席”,所以国内没人叫他“邓主席”。�
��国内发新闻稿时几乎都是 写“邓小平同志”或“小平同志”。



Quote:

独生子女政策进行得不太顺利。这个政策伤害社会。

独生子女政策实行得并不顺利。这个政策本身给社会带来了许多负面影响。



Quote:

政府允许一个家只有一个孩子,所以老一辈靠自己的孩子。年轻一辈决定不�
��老一辈提供或者不能提供自己的父母的话,老一辈就会吃不了苦。

劳驾,上面的话你还是用英文写吧,我实在看不懂。



Quote:

父母只能有一个孩子,因此,父母把全部的主意集中在他们自己的独生孩子�
��父母的目的是自己的孩子进名校,所以为了请家教或者上补习班,父母花��
�多钱。独生字女受到母的娇惯,而成为家中的霸道的小皇帝。中国孩子受到
太多的关注所以长成的时候不会有够独立性。

因为一对夫妻只能有一个孩子,
所以父母会把全部的注意力之中在他们的独生子女身上。父母的愿望是让自�
��的孩子入读名校,所以不惜千金请家教或把孩子送入补习班。独生子女受��
�父母和长辈的过度溺爱,成了家中的小皇帝。他们在成长的过程踪受到过多
的关注,很难培养出足够的独立性。



Quote:

虽然中国采取很多西方的观念,中国人还有重男轻女的传统想法。很多妇女�
��但认识到她们怀孕,就去医生发现孩子的性别。怀了女孩的话,赶快就堕��
�。根据最新的人口的统计男女比例是一百一十七比一百。二零二零年有人说
三千万个男人娶不了一个妻。在农村为了耕田,父母需要男孩,所以在农村�
��在城市严重得多。

虽然中国已经接纳了不少西方的观念,但中国人重男轻女的思想依旧根深蒂�
��。许多妇女一旦知道自己怀孕了,就去医院做B超,鉴定胎儿性别。要是怀�
��女娃,就马上堕胎。跟据最新的人口统计数据,中国的男女比例是一百一��
�七比一百。有人说,到了二零二零年,有三千万男人找不到老婆。在农村要
种地,父母需要男孩,所以在农村性别比例失衡的情况比城市更为严重。



Quote:

在中国有人不必须按照独生子女政策。一个家如果想有两三个孩子,就需要�
��社会扶养费。华裔外国人回中国,就可以有一多个孩子。少数民族在中国��
�全不需要按照独生子女政策。现在少数民族比华裔人口增长得快。

在中国有人可以不受独生子女政策的约束。一家如果想多生几个孩子的话,�
��得多付社会抚养费。外籍华裔在中国可以多生一个孩子。少数民族在中国��
�全不需要按照独生子女政策去做。现在少数民族人口的增长速度就比汉族快


Cheers!










opper567 -

thanks












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Saturday, December 6, 2008

HSK - 一改, 一解 -








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laser2302 -

Hi Everyone,

Read the following sentence:

据悉,工作人员喜欢模仿她说话的甜美口气,一解长期赶工的苦闷,而她还�
��带巧克力、零食分送大家,轻松赢得好人缘。

Can anyone tell me what's the difference between

一解长期赶工的苦闷
and
解长期赶工的苦闷

I don't understand why we put '一' after 解.

There are other phrases like that, e.g. 一改昨天的态度, in this case what's the difference
between:

一改昨天的态度
and
改昨天的态度

other examples include

一改……的态度
一改……的作风
一改……的习惯

Now why on earth we put '一' in these phrases and what's the significance of it or what does it
mean in these phrases, this is something that I never understood. So please please help me.



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muyongshi -



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I don't understand why we put '一' after 解.

First off I think you mean before

Here and in all the situations you mentioned and many more an 一 would represent an immediate
result and action

我下课后要回家
vs
我一下课,就要回家 Means immediately after i get out of class I am going home

So in your example: immediately following xxx she does xxxx










skylee -

I think it means completely.










muyongshi -

Well you would know better than I would but I don't quite understand how it would mean
completely...???










Essence -

Hi, maybe I can help you some.
In Chinese, "一" often means "all of", "totally", "wholly", "completely"
So, we can translate "一改..." to:
1. Sb. change all of the ...
2. Sb. change ... completely.
3. Sb. wholly change ...










gentle-fly -

i agree with what skylee has said ,it means "completely","to the

core","utterly",or"throughly"!
据悉,工作人员喜欢模仿她说话的甜美口气,一解长期赶工的苦闷,
it is reported that,the workers like to imitate her sweet tone,hoping to completely get rid

of tiredness of their longtime and urgent work.










laser2302 -

Thanks a lot everyone!












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Friday, December 5, 2008

Study Chinese - X-visa health check clarification needed! -








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khyber -

Hi there,

I’ve had a good look through the threads about the health check that you need to get at some
stage of your application for an X visa. In my case I will be studying at Yunnan Normal University
from the Spring semester in 2008 for one year and have just received my JW202 and admission notice
from the university (communication with the university thus far has been very good).

I have checked on the Chinese embassy (UK) website and it says nothing about bringing a health
report or health check documentation with you when applying for the visa. However, on the
admission notice from YNU it states that:

‘you can apply for F or X visa to the Chinese embassy or consulate in your country with this
Admission notice, the original copies of your Visa Application for Study in China (JW202),
Foreigner Physical Examination Form and your blood test report’.

It seems as if there are no hard and fast rules regarding the physical exam documentation and
whether it’s needed before getting to China. I tried calling the Chinese embassy today but
couldn’t get through so will try again next week, however, if anyone has any experience with
applying for an X-visa at the Chinese embassy in London I would love to hear from you!

P.S. Anyone out there going to YNU in the Spring?



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pandaxiongmao -

Last time I applied for an X visa (in Hong Kong, not London), the Chinese consulate pushed the
health examination form back to me. They said they don't need the form, but it is needed for
obtaining the residence permit once you are inside of China. That was for Hainan, the process in
Yunnan might be slightly different these days.










roddy -

London embassy won't ask for it. If you get it done you'll quite possibly need to repeat it here.










Han-tiger -

Article 6-( of Rules Governing the Implementation of the Law of the PRC on the Entry and Exit of
Alien says, “Aliens who come to China for permanent residence or for residence of one year and
upwards shall, in applying for entry visas, submit for examination health certificates issued by
health or medical institutions designated by the governments of the countries of their current
residence or those issued by health or medical institutions and certified by notarial organs.”

Therefore, the physical exam documentation is needed when applying for your X Visa.










muyongshi -



Quote:

Therefore, the physical exam documentation is needed when applying for your X Visa.

But it is usually done after you are in China because they don't like to accept outside exams....
So try not to quote the law at us but what is really going on....

This has been talked about here, here, and here










roddy -



Quote:

Therefore, the physical exam documentation is needed when applying for your X Visa.

No offense, but what is written in the regulations and what actually happens are two completely
different things. As far as the London embassy goes, you're wrong.










Han-tiger -

(1)What I wanted to say is “Article Six (Eight)”, but I am shocked when I find it appears as
“Article 6-(” in my post, which is not what I want!!!

(2)Actually, I don’t know exactly how the Chinese overseas embassies work. My opinion is based
on law, rather than experience. And, I have to admit that we lawyers are frequently placed in a
very embarrassing situation when facing discrepancies of this kind.










roddy -

Click the 'disable smilies' box and it'll stop turning 8 + ) into

Quote:

Actually, I don’t know exactly how the Chinese overseas embassies work.

The embassies themselves aren't too sure most of the time . . .










Shadowdh -

As Roddy says, you get it done in London... then you get it done here again... the only difference
is that the test you get here if you have already had it done in the UK is not as extensive... I
only had the xray and blood sample done as I had already had my health checks done in London...
others who hadnt had it done went through the whole thing... I also got a (very small) discount
when paying for the health check... at least thats how it works in Hubei... 湖北,武汉.










Han-tiger -

Thank you, roddy! The ( is very likely to make me misunderstood.












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Thursday, December 4, 2008

Chinese Studies - Some queations about the text -








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happyyy -

I learn Chinese online, the following text is my today's lesson, I can't solve some problems in
the text:

1 how to express the price?

When I say"eight handred yuan", the Chinese means"800kuai4", well, when I say "a piece of cake", I
also say"1 kuai4 dan4 gang1", so,what "块" means? How I express the Chinese price?

2 The sentence "nin2 yao4 dianr3 shen2 me"

"dianr3" is what's meaning? The Chinese character is "点",when I want to order disher, in
Chinese, also say"点菜",otherwise, why there is a "儿"behind the "点"?

Who can tell me to solve the peoblems? Any help will be appreciated! Thank you!

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块 means piece, as in a piece of cake. Its usage has been extended to money (supposedly because
that came in chunks previously? I'm sure somebody here knows the origin!)

The 儿 after 点 is about pronunciation, not about a different meaning, see here.










roddy -

I wouldn't use that site for a start. There are at least two elementary errors in the pinyin
transcriptions in the video, and if they can't get that right you can't really trust them with
anything else. Perhaps Chinesepod.com










HashiriKata -



Quote:


Originally Posted by Roddy

I wouldn't use that site for a start. There are at least two elementary errors in the pinyin
transcriptions in the video, and if they can't get that right you can't really trust them with
anything else.


I'd take Roddy's advice with a grain of salt. It's unhelpful and biased, which shows the kind of
stuff he's made of.










Luobot -

I wonder how anyone is able to watch anything on Linese. That site always chokes on me whenever I
try to access it.

I would agree with Roddy. ChinesePod may not be perfect, but it's a fairly reliable source of
information in a lively format (much improved since I last reviewed it).

Another site that I subscribe to is CLO, which takes a progressive approach. Be sure to start with
lesson 1 (as opposed to the current lesson) and proceed step by step from there.

Good luck!










chabuduo -

Kuai means pieces, but in this money context it's kind of similar to German using 'Schtutz' (sp)
or Americans saying 'bucks' for dollars.










Han-tiger -

A Chinese character usually has several meanings and can be combined with other certain characters
to create some phrases.

1 How to express the price?
The expression of price in written Chinese is quite different from that in spoken Chinese.

A. The expression of price in written Chinese
For example,
a. ¥66, in Chinese, it reads 六十六元.
b. ¥66.6 in Chinese, it reads 六十六元六角.
c. ¥66.66 in Chinese, it reads 六十六元六角六分.

B. The expression of price in spoken Chinese
For example,
a. ¥66, in Chinese, it reads 六十六块.
b. ¥66.6 in Chinese, it reads 六十六块六毛 or 六十六块六.
c. ¥66.66 in Chinese, it reads 六十六块六毛六分 or 六十六块六毛六.

2 块
A. piece, lump or cube
B. yuan (A unit of currency in China)
In oral communications, people prefer to use kuai (块) rather than yuan (元).

3 点
A. 一点:a little
B. 点菜:order dishes










roddy -

It appears that the original poster actually works for Linese and is attempting to drum up
traffic, hence does not need any advice on the Chinese language. Feel free to continue the
discussion though.


Quote:

the kind of stuff he's made of.

Nice to see you again as well.










Luobot -



Quote:

It appears that the original poster actually works for Linese and is attempting to drum up traffic
...

Assuming that's true, then I'm glad that I commented as I did. The last thing they can handle is
more traffic without some infrastructure improvements. I'd be "happyyy" to see them make the
investment so that I can use their site, which appears to have some potential. But there are so
many good options, nowadays, that I have no patience for pages that take forever to load and
sputtering multi-media. The other two sites that I mentioned in my previous post have acceptable
response times. Linese may wish to take a look at how others are doing it (e.g., Chinesepod's use
of Amazon). Note, also, that sites like CLO have never, to date, done any low-life advertising.
They believe in what they're doing, and they focus on content and delivery, so they have
confidence that the good word will spread organically. I think sneaky advertising just causes
potential customers to distrust the site. It would be more honest and effective to just put up
traditional advertisements. Anyway, that's my 2 kuai.










Han-tiger -

I hope the replies to OP are of some help to any other learners.












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rezaf -

my chinese level is beginner. i have a few chinese friends and i spend about 6 hours a week with
them to practice speaking but i don't find it that useful because the normal chinese people have
no idea about the problems that a beginner is facing. they don't have the patience to correct me
or to repeat something by giving more examples and in the end i just find myself enjoying playing
biliard with them but no progress in speaking chinese. when you want to speak to him don't speak
to him as you speak with other chinese. be his tutor and make conversations about simple subjects
in the everyday life even if you two already know the answer and encourage him to make long
sentences and wait for him to finish the sentence. it will look silly like acting in a play but i
wish i could find someone to do it with me.



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thph2006 -

It's great your husband is so interested in learning your language. I'm sure helping him learn
must be frustrating work but I know you'll find it's worth the investment because it will make
your family even closer. So maybe the real question is how do you help him achieve his goal with
minimum pain?

I went through a very similar situation with my wife where learning became more frustrating than
useful until her parents came to live with us for a while. Neither spoke any English and I, for
all intents and purposes, couldn't speak Chinese. When I tried to say something in Chinese my
mother in law had this great knack for figuring out what I was trying to say and repeating it back
to me in correct Chinese but not correcting me. She would say it in the same way a listener in
English might repeat what a speaker says out of surprise or excitement. For example I might say
the Chinese equivalent of "Person letter going house" and with a smile she would say "Ah, the
mailman is here". Then I'd find myself excitedly repeating back to her "Ah, the mailman is here",
all in Chinese of course. She never corrected me per say, she just acknowledged what I said in
correct Chinese. Through a combination of trial and error, sign language and Chinglish we slowly
began to communicate. That went on for as long as they stayed with us and I can't tell you how
much my speech and understanding and excitement for learning improved. Maybe it could work for you
too.










wai ming -



Quote:


Originally Posted by thph2006

When I tried to say something in Chinese my mother in law had this great knack for figuring out
what I was trying to say and repeating it back to me in correct Chinese but not correcting me. She
would say it in the same way a listener in English might repeat what a speaker says out of
surprise or excitement. For example I might say the Chinese equivalent of "Person letter going
house" and with a smile she would say "Ah, the mailman is here". Then I'd find myself excitedly
repeating back to her "Ah, the mailman is here", all in Chinese of course. She never corrected me
per say, she just acknowledged what I said in correct Chinese.


I think this is a really useful way of helping someone with their language learning, provided the
learner actually repeats the whole sentence back correctly. Hearing the correct way of saying
something without actively learning it is of little use.



Quote:


Originally Posted by strawberry_only

And, I did try to speak 100% Chinese to him. but he just sat in his chair and saying : yes, right,
ok to all of my speeches, without questioning me what did i mean!!


So I think if you could get your husband to repeat back what you say to him and actually interact
with you in Chinese, rather than just passively listening, he would probably improve more. After
all, conversation is a two-way street










mirgcire -

I think it is great that you are willing to help him. But, I don't think you should take the role
of teacher, and I don't think you should try to speak chinese all the time. My suggestion is to
set some ground rules about how and when you will use chinese. For example, if he initiates a
conversation in chinese you can follow suit. That would put the responsibility of practice on his
shoulders.

I also suggest you forget about correcting him, unless he asks for it. Probably when he speaks to
other chinese they are very impressed with his ability and ignore his mistakes. Your criticism
might be a bit of a disappointment.

It is his job to learn chinese, not your job to spoon feed it to him. If you set some mutually
agreed upon boundaries, then he can no longer complain about your willingness to help. And he may
actually improve.

I do have some experience with this, as my wife is Japanese. She said learning Japanese was my
responsibility, and there was no reason why she should have to suffer through my attempts at her
language when english is so much easier. I took classes for about two years but eventually gave
up, partly because of her criticism and lack of support but also because japanese is so
incomprehensible. But after our first daugher was born, I was not allowed to speak Japanese in her
presence because my poor pronunciation might have a long term impact. So I feel your husband is
quite lucky










shibole -

My wife is Chinese and I'm an American who just seriously started trying to learn Chinese, so our
situation is a little like yours except that I just started, so there's no dispute that I don't
know anything. Also, our situation is kind of two-way because I'm also trying to teach her better
English.

First I should say that I don't think it's your fault since the responsibility of learning is
really his. It sounds like you've tried to help but you're not a language teacher, so at some
point it gets hard to be that helpful. My wife is learning "advanced" English because she's
writing a book in English, and she wants me to help her improve her grammar, but she's at a point
where I often don't know how to tell her what's wrong with a sentence because I'm not an English
teacher. Sometimes she asks me questions about writing, and I'm like "I'm a native speaker and I
don't even think I can write well. How am I going to help you with writing?" So I just try to
correct her grammar mistakes and hope she learns somehow. It is really frustrating to not be able
to give her a rule to explain what's wrong though, and I keep telling her to take a regular (not
ESL) English class. She does attend a writers' group though which is very helpful to her.

It sounds like you have some specific ideas on what you want him to learn though, like specific
words. Why not just create some vocabulary lists for him to learn on his own? There are free
computer programs that are good for this kind of thing.

Here's another idea: It sounds like he has taken "basic" classes but may not have learned some
parts of basic grammar very well or something. It might be worth having him go through some
"basic" textbooks to help determine what he's weak on and needs to learn better without having to
retake the whole class so to speak. If he can isolate specific chapters that contain things he's
weak on he can just restudy those on his own and practice those concepts speaking to you.

I'm basically trying to learn how to teach myself with the aid of a textbook so I can ask my wife
to help me in specific ways rather than expecting her to become a language teacher and just teach
me. I'm not sure if it will work but that's what I'm trying to do right now.










WoAiJolinTsai -

sounds like he doesnt REALLY want to learn










strawberry_only -

Hi Guys! Thanks for all of you sharing your precious advices and experiences with me, I have read
everyone's replies over and over again and I think all of you are very helpful.

I think maybe sometimes I just expect him speak like a native Chinese to me and I think I just
need to be more patient with him. maybe it' ll take years or life to get his Chinese better but as
long as is improving then I think that's fine.

But I think the problem that my husband having is that he wants to learn it quickly, like he wants
to speak chinese fluently and pass intermediate HSK in half a year, also he works full-time and
its really stressful, he often feeling tired from work and can not concentrate in Chinese studies,
so he felt bit frustrated about he can not achive his dreams quick enough. But I think I do help
him, maybe he is not very happy when he doesnt pass his HSK exam in 6 monthes then he thought I
didn't help him enough...but anyway I will try my best to help my husband to learn Chinese. I
think maybe it is just normal sometimes married couples like to blame each other for some little
things even they knew they didn't mean to.










adrianlondon -

Tell him to use these forums. Not only will be be able to read this thread (and hopefully stop
blaming you!) but he'll also get a feel for how difficult it is to become proficient at the
language, and maybe stop feeling so dejected about it all.










simonlaing -

Hi Strawberry,

I am sorry I am late to conversation but I had one or two points.

One be careful to separate the roles of wife and tutor. If you want to give him Chinese lessons in
addition to the one's he's taking make sure you arrange a set time each week. At those times you
can really be a teacher.

At other times be the supportive wife. When he struggles give him the supportive, compassionate
smile. If he asks if some thing is right when it is obviously wrong, pause, Smile and say "that's
close" then give him a clue to get it obviously.

Someone once told me "Learning Chinese is a 5 year lesson in patience. At the end of 5 years you
still don't know Chinese but you have learned patience." The HSK intermediate is a difficult,
tricky test espicially if he reads slowly like most people. Tell him a 4 out of 8 on the test
would qualify him to study undergraduate classes in China. (This will make him feel better when he
only gets a 3 which is a good score).

If you think his vocabulary is limited offer to help him by making flash cards of the words you
know he doesn't know. (Don't forget the pinyin). Or perhaps you can label things in the house so
he can learn it. I found watching a lot of Movies helped my pronunciation, HK ones with subtitles
are good so he can figure out what is going on. Also KTV VCDs help though I am not sure how
available they are in the UK.

Another slightly sneaky way of showing him his level isn't what he thinks it is , is to hang out
with some Chinese or Western people with very good Chinese and speak chinese and a little English
with them.

Finally you said you weren't sure if he was making progress or not. This is a possibility. My
father listened to french tapes to and from work for 4 years, before giving up. I think having
regular quizes and tests should help him make sure he knows what he knows. (I had tutoring earlier
without tests or homework and it was not very productive. I was working at the same time so it was
easy for me to make excuses) If his Chinese class gives him quizes this should be fine.

You seem like a kind and loving wife. I think simply being sensitive that Learning Chinese is a
difficult thing to do will go a long way.
Good Luck,
Have fun,
Simon










johnd -

I'm British, and my wife is Chinese too. I agree with you that the Chinese will often say things
the way they are, and the British will often construct a round-about statement, or just ignore the
truth and be positive. Maybe the British will offer encouragement, and the Chinese will offer
criticism. I'm not trying to say which way is better, because in each way we are all trying to be
friendly, and to help those we care about.

So to bridge this gap, I suggest you start using the "but" phrase more often. My wife and I are
always joking about this - the British like saying things like "I'd love to help you, but ... I'm
too busy", or "I'd like to go out with you, but ... I have to wash my hair". So you give him a
compliment, and then tell him the truth. You give encouragement, and then offer criticism. "I
think you've worked really hard, but you still need to improve such and such." "Your tones have
got much better this month, but you need to focus on your grammar."

That way he feels the encouragement that he's been conditioned to expect, and you can get across
your point. I hope this is helpful, and that I'm not saying things you already know! All the best












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