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wushijiao -

I also recently bought a Treo, although I didn’t get quite as good of a price as venture160
(4000, plus a 1G card and a screen).

Since I failed the writing section of the HSK Gao, I was looking for ways to incorporate writing
characters by hand into my life on a daily basis. So, getting a cell phone that I could write by
hand with seemed like a practical first step. Then, because of Gato and other people’s
endorsement of Pleco, I figured it would be worth it to go one step higher and get a cell
phone/PDA. The Treo seemed like a good choice.

So far I’m pretty happy overall with the Treo, except that it seems fairly complex for a stupid
luddite like me. But, I’m sure that I’ll get more used to it as time goes on.

As far as Pleco, I think it’s just a wonderful thing. The ABC dictionary is one powerful little
guy. I’ve been reading some books in 繁体字 that I got in Hong Kong last week, and I’m
positive that the fastest way to look up an unknown, complex 20+ stroke traditional is by writing
it into Pleco. That probably takes 10-15 seconds compared to a minute or two in a paper
dictionary. Then you can just pop it into a flashcard pile.

Also, I’ve been writing all my Chinese texts by hand, which is hopefully improving my writing
speed. (If you are on the Mainland and would like to chat in Chinese on your phone, feel free to
drop me a PM).

So, I agree that getting a PDA can be a very practical way to develop one’s Chinese.



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roddy -

You think writing it in is quick? Get an electronic version of the book on there, set up instant
access and the definition is a swipe and a tap away . . .










gato -

Those of you with a Treo, you might want to this program below, which will give you more input
method choices than CJKOS (Wubi, Shuangpin, etc). It's very popular among mainland Treo users.
http://www.51pda.cn/bbs/htm_data/52/0603/458.html
"掌易"中文输入平台 1.06










gchodorow -

Hi:

My old Palm 650 with SIM card was stolen. The card was an M-Zone (China Mobile Dong Gan Di Dai)
SIM card.

I've bought a new 650 and a new M-Zone card, but they are incompatible. (The card just searches
eternally for a network, never finding it). I don't know if this is related to the line in the 650
user manual that the Treo works with 3-volt but not 5-volt SIMs.

The result is that it appears I either have to give up my Palm 650 or give up my phone number
(which begins with 134.88...). I would appreciate any ideas for possible solutions.










roddy -

It's possible to transfer a number from one SIM to another, I believe, so that might be a
solution? I'm not sure how the process works as I've never had to do it, but I believe if you go
to a 营业厅 they can do it. Not sure how easy it is, but I've had friends have phones stolen
and be able to continue using the same number.

Are you sure it's the SIM that's the problem though? Does it work in other phones / does the phone
work with other SIMs?










gchodorow -

Thanks for your reply, Roddy.

If I can transfer a phone number from one SIM card to another, then what I need to do is find
someone with an M-Zone SIM card issued more than 1 year ago. They can give it to me, and then they
can just transfer their phone number to a new SIM card. Is there anybody out there with an M-Zone
SIM card issued more than 1 year ago?

(By the way, yes, I'm sure it's the mismatch between the new M-Zone SIM card and the Treo 650
that's the problem. This card works in other phones. Other cards besides this work in this phone.)










roddy -

Have you asked China Mobile? Treo 650's aren't that thin on the ground, and they must have dealt
with the problem before, no? Although perhaps the high-end 650 and pay as you go M-Zone SIM would
be seen as a bit of a mismatch.

I'd go into a 营业厅 rather than just asking at one of the random outlets though.

See also this if you haven't already.

Roddy










badr -

has anyone been to zongguncun lately and asked about the price of the 650?

I tried looking for them in the electronics shop off of super bar street but they didn't have any
and I'm not too interested in paying over 3K for the CECT branded one.

Thanks










Prodigal Son -

Anyone have any idea what the approximate price of the 650 is now? The price must be falling since
Palm seems to releasing new models at no small pace and the 650 is well over a year old now.










tallynole -

zol has the CECT version of the treo for 3400 RMB right now.
I'm not sure about the black market ones.












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